The False Prophet

When I first joined the community, I was looking for a forum that wasn't "Guru" based or "teacher" based. Those forums are super rare but I found one. Anyway this forum I posted at, had several different Guru's who posted at one time or another, including Gunwitch(From "The Game" fame), Papa (rsd), Entrophy, Johnny Soporno etc. The funny part is the Guru's who posted aren't/weren't even the best posters and the only reason 99% of them posted is to further their business.

There was a D-list guru, who would post. I liked the guy's style very blunt and knowledgeable. One thing I liked about D-list guru, is that he was very Anti-PUA. Now for those that know me, I don't consider myself a PUA, however after reading Strauss book I didn't wanna fall under that label especially since I wanted my game to be more natural instead of routine based. Mind you I read "The Game" so I knew to be wary of fraud charlatans but even with that discernment I was still naive.I thought this guru seemed legit, he gave sound advice, had website up with pictures of women that he banged and women in ugh compromising positions, and he also was a good looking man who didn't look like a geek.

I Pm'd the guy, and he gave me some basic advice, that you always hear "work out, make sure you dress nice, and cut a flaky bitches of, and buy my book!".

A couple months went by, The D-list Guru left and came back on the forums. By that time My game had taking of fast to a high level. I wrote several FR's at the time. When he came back I proudly showed him some of the stuff that I was doing (going out with other community guys, my epic 3some, partying with model chicks).

You know what he said? "dude what the fuck? you should be closing every girl, all your doing is just being social, ...". Now Mind you, closing every girl isn't possible even for a "suave" guy like the guru. However he didn't see it that way, I asked him a basic question on "building rapport" and his reply was "buy my book".

Now unlike other Guru's his book wasn't $400 dollars, but it still was $99. I was skeptical about the guru. Here after just a few months in the game, I was having tremendous success that few guys would have. This Charlatan was telling me that "I wasn't doing it right".

Soon I started to notcied things about the Guru. After a parituclar misogynistic email he send me, I realized that some of these guys aren't there to genuinely help guys but just after dollars and well have issues.

me and ******** don't do the social game

we both found it does not work.

all it gets you is a lot of ACQUAINTANCES

a player wants to walk in a room and see a woman in heat across the room he never met and be able to fuck her in the bathroom of the club within 10 minutes

then if he wants to, he will keep her on his team and use her for sex.

let me repeat

me and ****** DON'T do social game.

NO SOCIAL BULLSHIT.

we don't sit there talking to our friends in the club.

we go in alone. we don't hang out with a bunch of BOY-friends

we keep our mind on the goal. finding a woman and bringing her to your place or hers.
we don't have the time or patience to sit around in a club, pretend to be nice guys, buy everyone beer and act like we are happy.

we want to fuck women and that is what we go to clubs for. only one purpose.

if you like to socialize, i don't know what to tell you, because i don't go to clubs to socialize.
i never had an interest in sitting there talking to a buncha guys or a buncha women i am not screwing.

Do you know who Mike Tyson is? Well one woman was trying to get an interview with him. He told her: "I don't talk to women unless I am fvcking them. So if you want to talk to me, meet me in my hotel room."

Like him, I don't waste my time talking to people for no reason.

Players are users and abusers. We use women for sex. If she doesn't want to roll with us, she does not exist to us.

^^^Now this the last message I ever got from dude, I found the message very disturbing. Not just his views on women, but that he only goes to the club for "sex" and not to hang out with friends (I wonder if he has any guy friends).  I honestly Belive in what Badboy says in the video below

 ^^great way to kill outcome dependence

You go out with that neediness and you end up depressed or angry. It's happened to me, Iv'e seen guys go through it. Were they only go out to get "some" and their getting dissed by girls left and right.

It's Charlatans like that one, that give the community a bad name. The guy obviously was confused. I don't know were he is at now with his views  when it comes to women. I do know he isn't in the "pick-up" business anymore(thank God) The guru's aren't always what their cracked up to be. I have had many arguments with various Guru's in my short stint in the community(Including a beef that ended up spilling over into videos). The Guru's that I have talked too a lot of them seem suspect. Even if they get hot women and bang them, a lot of them seem very insecure, and rather have the validation of men then the women their banging, or they get their self-worth from "how many" or "what types of women" they have sex with. This is dangerous when you identify yourself with how "hot" the last girl is that you banged, sadly many of us fall into this trap.